(Migrated) zato on wikipedia

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Zato is not listed on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_service_bus

Possibly this would be beneficial to the project?

Also having a feature comparison with other common open source ESB/SOA
implementations would be great

On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 3:53 PM, George Kappel george.kappel@gmail.comwrote:

Zato is not listed on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_service_bus

Possibly this would be beneficial to the project?

Check it if is already added.

Regards,

Also having a feature comparison with other common open source ESB/SOA
implementations would be great

On 01/03/2014 09:53 PM, George Kappel wrote:

Hi George,

Zato is not listed on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_service_bus

Possibly this would be beneficial to the project?

It sure would be and there even used to be such pages - some nice users
added those at one point …

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zato_ESB
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zato

… but they were taken down as the moderators felt it was too early -
Zato wasn’t mentioned in any sources Wikipedia folks take into account.
Me, I cannot do it myself since that would be self-promotion or would
probably violate one of WP rules.

I cannot really blame them - far too many WP articles feel like blatant
ads and I wouldn’t want for Zato one to look the same either.

Interestingly enough, Wikipedia in the French language has had a link
for a long time:

If you have a blog or write articles, for Wikipedia, or other sites,
perhaps you can write an article, present Zato to a local user group or
a conference thus spreading the information?

Also having a feature comparison with other common open source ESB/SOA
implementations would be great

You know, I’d rather create a series of white papers presenting Zato
along with an explanation of which integration patterns out of these ones …

http://eaipatterns.com/

… are implemented as-is or are available indirectly.

The thing with such comparisons is that they quickly get out of date so
I’d rather focus on what Zato has instead of what it has in
addition/unlike other systems.

Not to mention that softer things would be difficult to compare - how
can I succinctly and convincingly explain that Python really is
executable pseudo code for most EAI/SOA purposes and the productivity is
unparalleled?

That said, I’d be very happy to help you with making best of Zato in
your project if you could explain it a bit more, please? :slight_smile:

thanks and take care,

On 01/03/2014 09:53 PM, George Kappel wrote:

Hi George,

Zato is not listed on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_service_bus

Possibly this would be beneficial to the project?

It sure would be and there even used to be such pages - some nice users
added those at one point …

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zato_ESB
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zato

… but they were taken down as the moderators felt it was too early -
Zato wasn’t mentioned in any sources Wikipedia folks take into account.
Me, I cannot do it myself since that would be self-promotion or would
probably violate one of WP rules.

I cannot really blame them - far too many WP articles feel like blatant
ads and I wouldn’t want for Zato one to look the same either.

Interestingly enough, Wikipedia in the French language has had a link
for a long time:

If you have a blog or write articles, for Wikipedia, or other sites,
perhaps you can write an article, present Zato to a local user group or
a conference thus spreading the information?

Also having a feature comparison with other common open source ESB/SOA
implementations would be great

You know, I’d rather create a series of white papers presenting Zato
along with an explanation of which integration patterns out of these ones …

http://eaipatterns.com/

… are implemented as-is or are available indirectly.

The thing with such comparisons is that they quickly get out of date so
I’d rather focus on what Zato has instead of what it has in
addition/unlike other systems.

Not to mention that softer things would be difficult to compare - how
can I succinctly and convincingly explain that Python really is
executable pseudo code for most EAI/SOA purposes and the productivity is
unparalleled?

That said, I’d be very happy to help you with making best of Zato in
your project if you could explain it a bit more, please? :slight_smile:

thanks and take care,

Hi,

IMHO, the proper way to add an article to Wikipedia, is to find many (at
least several) other articles that would benefit from mentioning Zato. Then
mention Zato in all of that articles, and even link to yet non-existing
Zato page. These references would probably have to be added by different
users. And after that adding Zato page to Wikipedia would be natural, i.e.
there is need for an article since many of the pages mention it.

Even without article dedicated to Zato, simple mentions of it in relevant
places will do the good as reader will be able to google it, if interested.

This mail-list thread can be used to share achievements. I.e. the fact that
Zato is mentioned in following pages is already achievement:

The important thing about ability to have own article is Notability. I.e.
Zato needs to have more mentions on the internet then several articles.
I.e. system need to gain more traction, to be mentioned in blogs, and other
sources, not only ones Dariusz taken care to help to emerge.

Regards,

Myroslav Opyr

On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Dariusz Suchojad dsuch@zato.io wrote:

On 01/03/2014 09:53 PM, George Kappel wrote:

Hi George,

Zato is not listed on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_service_bus

Possibly this would be beneficial to the project?

It sure would be and there even used to be such pages - some nice users
added those at one point …

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zato_ESB
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zato

… but they were taken down as the moderators felt it was too early -
Zato wasn’t mentioned in any sources Wikipedia folks take into account.
Me, I cannot do it myself since that would be self-promotion or would
probably violate one of WP rules.

I cannot really blame them - far too many WP articles feel like blatant
ads and I wouldn’t want for Zato one to look the same either.

Interestingly enough, Wikipedia in the French language has had a link
for a long time:

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_Service_Bus

If you have a blog or write articles, for Wikipedia, or other sites,
perhaps you can write an article, present Zato to a local user group or
a conference thus spreading the information?

Also having a feature comparison with other common open source ESB/SOA
implementations would be great

You know, I’d rather create a series of white papers presenting Zato
along with an explanation of which integration patterns out of these ones

http://eaipatterns.com/

… are implemented as-is or are available indirectly.

The thing with such comparisons is that they quickly get out of date so
I’d rather focus on what Zato has instead of what it has in
addition/unlike other systems.

Not to mention that softer things would be difficult to compare - how
can I succinctly and convincingly explain that Python really is
executable pseudo code for most EAI/SOA purposes and the productivity is
unparalleled?

That said, I’d be very happy to help you with making best of Zato in
your project if you could explain it a bit more, please? :slight_smile:

thanks and take care,


Dariusz Suchojad

https://zato.io
ESB, SOA and cloud integrations in Python